ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

If money were no object


If money were no object, I'd go with an E63s. Image from Wikipedia.

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What does Honda charge for routine yearly maintenance?
No idea. I change my oil every 10k, and that's basically it. Cars last until I sell (and beyond I'm sure) about 150k.
 
Every year I take my Alltrack to the stealership for routine service, and it's $700 minimum. Regardless of the miles driven. Once the car starts getting older then it's endless belts, chains, sensors, fluids etc...

I was only estimating about $1300 in gas savings actually.

If you charge off peak with pseg the electricity is like 75% discounted

In terms of what EV to buy you need to spend a little time looking around. If you can stomach a Swastikacar the Y is still the best bang per buck IMHO. In the US at least.
You are being a little hyperbolic discussing routine service. Bigger cost items like timing belts are replaced generally around 80k miles, time chains should last the life of your car, and the belts that run the accessories seem to last as long as the timing belt and are cheap to replace. Tranny fluid changes can be as low as 40k miles but are generally much longer. There are consumables like tires and brakes, but, again, these are not yearly expenses and electric vehicles use brakes and tires. Today's cars and trucks should easily reach 100k plus without any major problems. Obviously how many miles you drive per year and how hard the miles are will speed up maintenance.

Here is the discount information breakdown if you have PSEG electric service in NJ. It is a decent discount with many rules and requirements.

"The Off-Peak Charging credit is approximately $0.105/kWh."
"Off-peak periods are defined as 9 p.m. to 7 a.m. (EST) Monday–Friday, and all day on Saturday and Sunday."
You must use approved level 2 chargers and vehicles.

In addition to the service charge of $6, my current bill has 2 charges based on usage - the actual electricity used and the delivery of the electricity used.
Electricity cost $0.156667/kWh
Delivery cost $$0.062311/kWh
These numbers are for April and we did not reach any thresholds for higher kWh cost and usage that generally happens in the summer with the A/C units running.

So the discount of $0.105 is off the $0.156667/kWh only and only during the defined off-peak. Certainly this is a substantial discount. There are a lot of requirements and costs (and some credits) due to the installation of the approved level 2 charger. We do not put much mileage on our cars so our total fuel bill for our vehicles is almost irrelevant - as it would be if we switched to electric.

One more thing to remember -as electric demand increases, electric costs are going to increase and never come down due to the nature of the electrical generation and electrical delivery in the US. Maybe if the Arc Reactor becomes a reality electric prices will come down.
 
Am I?
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My Dad pays even more for his Boomer Lexus
So you are going to show a 40k service bill with zero context and use that as your example?
Do you drive 40k miles per year?
In the US the yearly mileage average is around 14k miles- meaning the average alltrack driver might need this service every 3 years. The engine in your alltrack has a 10k oil change schedule. That tracks to roughly every year. Honda recommends spark plug (platinum type) replacement on a 2023 Civic at 7 years or 105k miles.

There might be an electric vehicle that could match your alltrack (awesome car) in the same price range, but that really depends on your own situation. Maybe for you it is worth it to go electric for cheaper fuel and to skip paying for this type of service.
 
Dude, every service has been at least $500. I don't even think the 40k is anything special with my car. That's pretty much the standard going rate at dealerships now. Now that it's out of warranty I may take it to a local shop but they have gotten things wrong before.

It's a late 2018 (really a 2019 build), so I've had it 6 and half years.
 
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