The Powder Chaser's Ratio

Harvey

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Would love to see this chart for the east:


From @snoloco 's original post:




What ski areas have the highest lift capacity to lowest acreage and vice versa?

Hunter has a combined capacity of 14,600 pph and 250 acres. That forms a skiers per acre per hour ratio of 58.

Windham has a combined capacity of 13,200 pph and 270 acres. Skier per acre per hour ratio is 48.

Belleayre has a combined capacity of 9,000 pph and 170 acres. Skier per acre per hour ratio is 53.

Plattekill has a combined capacity of 3,000 pph and 130 acres. Skier per acre per hour ratio is 23.

Mount Snow has a combined capacity of 27,700 pph and 530 acres. Skier per acre per hour ratio is 52.

Gore has a combined capacity of 17,600 pph and 460 acres. Skier per acre per hour ratio is 38.

Whiteface has a combined capacity of 14,200 pph and 300 acres. Skier per acre per hour ratio is 47.

Mountain Creek has a combined capacity of 13,980 pph and 160 acres. Skier per acre per hour ratio is 87.

Killington has a combined capacity of 36,200 pph and 800 acres. Skier per acre per hour ratio is 45.

Okemo has a combined capacity of 28,100 pph and 600 acres. Skier per acre per hour ratio is 47.

Steamboat has a combined capacity of 32,000 pph and 3,500 acres. Skier per acre per hour ratio is 9.

Not surprisingly, Mountain Creek has by far the highest skier density. Steamboat was included as a western example. Even Plattekill puts a number of people on the trails that is 3 times as dense. With the Catskill mountains, Hunter definitely has the most, and Belleayre and Windham are similar. They're also similar to the Vermont mountains I included.




How exactly do you do this math @snoloco ?
 
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Would love to see this chart for the east:
This would be great for the site, Harv. Except the ratio should be tailored to include only lifts of significance, i.e. NOT including beginner lifts (carpets or chairs under 800 feet in length), lifts from parking lots to base area.

Late to this thread, sorry.
 
This would be great for the site, Harv.
I agree.

Would find a place in the directory for it.

Would like to do for all of NY and separately VT.

Any volunteers to help.
 
Any guesses on the winner of the East Coast Golden Ratio?

Stratton?
 
Any guesses on the winner of the East Coast Golden Ratio?

Stratton?
Nope. At least not if the data on Ski Central is up to date. I don't have any interest in compiling a comprehensive table, but here are the places that came to mind that folks in the northeast mention for powder skiing. Stratton doesn't make the top five.

Sugarloaf, ME: 1230 21810 0.056
Gore, NY: 439 8400 0.052
Magic, VT: 115 3574 0.032
Jay, VT: 385 12175 0.031
Pico, VT: 265 10650 0.027
Sugarbush, VT: 578 26463 0.022
Stratton, VT: 670 33428 0.020

The list is a bit biased because the places I've skied NE powder are Pico and Sugarbush. Got lucky on a midweek ski safari after a powder storm after lifts closed on Sunday.

Occurred to me that another factor for the northeast to consider is the snowmaking coverage. A resort with 100% snowmaking probably isn't the best candidate for powder turns. Saddleback has 85% coverage for 220 acres served by 5 lifts, but lift capacity wasn't available. I think one peak is only accessible by snowcat. It's in Maine, hours from the nearest city. Reminds me of Mt. Bohemia, which is the place to go in the midwest for powder. :)
 
Sugarloaf, ME: 1230 21810 0.056
Gore, NY: 439 8400 0.052
Magic, VT: 115 3574 0.032
Jay, VT: 385 12175 0.031
Pico, VT: 265 10650 0.027
Sugarbush, VT: 578 26463 0.022
Stratton, VT: 670 33428 0.020
I this means I'd love Sugarloaf.
 
Nope. At least not if the data on Ski Central is up to date. I don't have any interest in compiling a comprehensive table, but here are the places that came to mind that folks in the northeast mention for powder skiing. Stratton doesn't make the top five.

Sugarloaf, ME: 1230 21810 0.056
Gore, NY: 439 8400 0.052
Magic, VT: 115 3574 0.032
Jay, VT: 385 12175 0.031
Pico, VT: 265 10650 0.027
Sugarbush, VT: 578 26463 0.022
Stratton, VT: 670 33428 0.020

The list is a bit biased because the places I've skied NE powder are Pico and Sugarbush. Got lucky on a midweek ski safari after a powder storm after lifts closed on Sunday.

Occurred to me that another factor for the northeast to consider is the snowmaking coverage. A resort with 100% snowmaking probably isn't the best candidate for powder turns. Saddleback has 85% coverage for 220 acres served by 5 lifts, but lift capacity wasn't available. I think one peak is only accessible by snowcat. It's in Maine, hours from the nearest city. Reminds me of Mt. Bohemia, which is the place to go in the midwest for powder. :)
Platty to more natural snow then 2 bidg adk and 3 Catskills it it's awesome power skier or snow boarders hill for sure
 
I bet Smugg’s is high on the list

Does Mt. Washington via the Cog Railway count as a ski area?
 
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