The Indy Pass

[Flying Z]

Indy pass is out. Right now $279 with "limited quantity". As stated earlier West mountain was added and it looks like all of the other east coast players are still on it. Out West, Powder Mountain was added, so one could throw in Beaver Mtn with it and also shell out some cash for a LCC/BCC day or 2 to make a good trip. There are a few more blackouts, too complicated to list.

Our Resorts

The Indy Pass offers two days skiing at over 180 uncrowded, authentic ski destinations across the United States, Canada, Europe and Japan.

www.indyskipass.com

 

[MarzNC]

Guess April is the new June. ;-)

I got a code via email to use for a little credit since I only used Indy 2019-20 for 3 ski days. It's good until Sept. 1.

AddOn passes for $189 can't be bought until July 1.

In addition to Powder Mountain, Mt. Ashland in southern OR was added to the western line up. I have a good friend who calls Ashland his home mountain. Hmm . . .

 

[tirolski]

More here. Didn’t know Powder was the biggest ski Mtn In USA by total acreage. Indy gained 3 places and didn’t lose any.

The Indy Pass Just Nabbed the Biggest Resort in the U.S., and it Goes on Sale Today

The multi-resort pass now tallies 66 resorts and is on sale for the 2021-'22 season.

www.skimag.com

 

[marcski]

I don't know the numbers as far as pass sales but at least for me, I think the Indy Pass would attract more skiers/sales if they included more days at each resort, say double it to 4 and charge more say 500. or even double it for 550.

 

[MarzNC]

I don't know the numbers as far as pass sales but at least for me, I think the Indy Pass would attract more skiers/sales if they included more days at each resort, say double it to 4 and charge more say 500. or even double it for 550.

As I understand it from interviews Doug Fish has done, the target market are people who only ski <5 days a season. Also trying to keep the price for a family of 3-4 low enough to make it into a tight budget. It's not that they don't like to ski, but other elements of their lives are a higher priority. Doug's idea was to keep the entry price as reasonable as possible, while enticing people to try out a couple independent ski areas/resorts within driving distance a time or two. Very different than the target market for the Mountain Collective or Ikon/Epic.

In my neck of the woods, there isn't a ski hill on Indy worth going for more than a day or two. They are all under 100 acres. However, since I'm willing to fly to ski having Indy might entice me to try some place new just for fun.

 

[tirolski]

Powder Mtn. only sells 3000 season passes and they’re sold out for 21-22.. Ya can get on the waiting list if ya want.

Resort

Powder Mountain Resort, located in Eden, Utah, 1 hour North of Salt Lake City Int'l Airport, boast the most skiable acreage in North America and limits daily skiers.

www.powdermountain.com

Was reading reviews of Powder Mountain and came across this one. Perfecto.

Please don't come here. The staff are overly polite, so if you're not from the south or some other place where people are nice, it can be rather unsettling. This place only sells (maximum) of 1500 tickets each day, so if you are used to meeting lots of unusual people in long lift lines, you will hate this place. There are simply no lines at the lifts. If you need a nice rest between each run, please go somewhere like Park City so you can relax while waiting on the lifts. The food/drinks are also rather reasonably priced (for a ski area) so many will feel like they're being ripped off if they're not paying $15 for a bowl of chili or $11 for a slice of pizza. Powder Mountain lift tickets and nearby lodging are very reasonably priced. If you yearn to impress your shallow friends and coworkers by telling them how much you spent on your family vacation, please go somewhere else. Finally, the snow. There can often be SO much snow that it's darn near impossible to get down the hill. I've heard that Powder Mountain has even closed in the past because there was too much snow to actually operate the lifts. Often, the road to the resort can be '4WD or chains ONLY'. If you don't have either, you can park in Eden and take the chain-equipped bus to the top...but Canyons or Snowbird would probably be much more convenient. Bottom line-it can be a challenge to get here. We hope you enjoy your ski vacation at somewhere other than Powder Mountain! have a great day!

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[MarzNC]

More here. Didn’t know Powder was the biggest ski Mtn In USA by total acreage. Gained 3 places and didn’t lose any.

The Indy Pass Just Nabbed the Biggest Resort in the U.S., and it Goes on Sale Today

The multi-resort pass now tallies 66 resorts and is on sale for the 2021-'22 season.

www.skimag.com

Powder Mtn. only sells 3000 season passes and they’re sold out for 21-22.. Ya can get on the waiting list if ya want.

Resort

Powder Mountain Resort, located in Eden, Utah, 1 hour North of Salt Lake City Int'l Airport, boast the most skiable acreage in North America and limits daily skiers.

www.powdermountain.com

What's more unusual than the acreage is that PowMow started limiting season passes and day tickets several years ago after the new owners took over. Something like 1500 day tickets on top of the 3000 season passes. That means under 5000 people for 7000 acres. Tickets didn't used to sell out often, but it definitely pays to get one before driving up the mountain road. It's more nerve wracking than the road up LCC to Alta/Snowbird.

PowMow has a relatively short season for Utah since there is no snowmaking, late Dec to late March. Would love it ski there after a powder storm but so far I haven't been lucky. Just missed a dump one year when friends had pre-planned a private snowcat for a day. My travel schedule meant that I'd left by then.

 

[MarzNC]

There are a few more blackouts, too complicated to list.

Boy, really is complicated. Although the FAQ lists are well organized. Here's what applies to the northeast: Magic, Cannon, Waterville Valley, Saddleback. Clearly it took some negotiations to get Cannon, Saddleback, PowMow, and Mission Ridge on board. Essentially can only use Indy during early season, midweek, and late season at those better known ski areas.

 

[marcski]

As I understand it from interviews Doug Fish has done, the target market are people who only ski <5 days a season. Also trying to keep the price for a family of 3-4 low enough to make it into a tight budget. It's not that they don't like to ski, but other elements of their lives are a higher priority. Doug's idea was to keep the entry price as reasonable as possible, while enticing people to try out a couple independent ski areas/resorts within driving distance a time or two. Very different than the target market for the Mountain Collective or Ikon/Epic.

In my neck of the woods, there isn't a ski hill on Indy worth going for more than a day or two. They are all under 100 acres. However, since I'm willing to fly to ski having Indy might entice me to try some place new just for fun.

Yes, interesting target demo. But then to fly somewhere and only get 2 days...?

 

[MarzNC]

Yes, interesting target demo. But then to fly somewhere and only get 2 days...?

I take it that you never considered a ski safari based on the MCP. That provides only 2 days too. Wasn't expected that people would drive between the original destination resorts spread all over the Rockies, but enough people did there was a shift in strategy to include resorts that were actually near each other. The first four resorts for 2012-13 were Alta, Aspen, JH, and Squaw/Alpine, priced at $349. There were more people than expected who went to 2-3 flying for long weekends.

Also get 25% discount for a third day at Indy locations.

Based on some of the chatter on the Indy Passholders Facebook group this past season, there are definitely people who are willing to do a lot of driving to ski just a couple days at assorted independent ski areas. Although it's true that not many start by flying to another region.

My guess is that most Indy passholders are hoping to get to 3 places within driving distance. $279/6 means $46.50 per day. So three ski weekends. $279/4 means $69.75 or about $70. Compared to paying $80+ per ticket for two ski weekends, still makes sense for what some people call "casual" skiers/boarders. Doug mentioned in one interview that he hoped to have 5 locations within driving distance for every region.

I wouldn't fly somewhere just to use Indy. But I might get more interested in flying somewhere partially because I could also use Indy for a couple days. For instance, head to Oregon mostly to ski at Bachelor but plan on spending a day or two at Mt. Ashland. Or to be really silly, fly to the midwest to visit relatives and use Indy to check out a few places. Never skied in the midwest. I have a $200 SW voucher from being delayed by a day getting home from ABQ.