The Garage Thread: Tractors and UTVs

Our situation is fairly similar to Harvey's. We have a 300 foot gravel driveway with a bit of a hill and as you know, get lots of snow. Fifteen years ago, we decided that getting a tractor would be a good idea, plus the fact that Blue Toes grew up on a farm and always wanted a tractor. Dealing with snow and doing some landscaping were the main objectives. Went shopping with a budget of $15 K CAD, which could get you a nice new compact tractor at the time. Then we had the opportunity to buy Blue Toes' cousin's used Kubota L2550, an 80s vintage machine that he (a mechanic) had just overhauled. Came with cab (great option), rear-mounted snowblower that was a little narrower than the tractor (not ideal) and a bucket loader (very handy, and you can plow with it if careful). My neighbour had a grader blade that he wasn't using, so I got it on long-term loan (also very handy). The thing was a beast, and in the end, much more tractor than we needed. I thought that I might use it to haul logs out of the bush but it was just to tall and unwieldy to drive safely on old logging trails. In the end, I wish we had bought the smaller tractor, which I could have safely driven in the bush and could have done everything else easily.

By 2020, we were looking at some big $$$ to fix the non-functional alternator, leaky transmission and buy new tires. We sold it for what we paid for it and bought a a 30" Cub Cadet HD walk-behind snowblower (mine has a Honda engine, it is super-powered). I can do the driveway faster with the Cub Cadet than I could with the Kubota, since there is less farting around time, like waiting for the diesel to warm up, or the hydraulic fluid to start moving when it is really cold. I miss the bucket from time to time but otherwise have no regrets.

For your needs, I think a "sub-compact" or "compact" tractor like the Kubota BX or B01 series would be just the ticket. With the money you save not buying a bigger tractor, get add-ons like a front mounted snowblower, grader blade, heated cab and bucket loader. Heck, throw in the log-splitter! And you won't need as big a garage.

I see dudes trying to plow their driveways with an ATV after a big dump, it is no bueno. An ATV or UTV would be very useful at your place, but get a big walk-behind snowblower (Honda if you can afford it, Cub Cadet next best choice) for the deep days and use the ATV/UTV with a blade for small dumps and early/late season when any blower will get bogged down.
Thanks for this SBR. Very helpful.

Is your driveway flat or pitched? @Cork's driveway is probably steep as mine but much shorter (and paved).

From what I have been reading today, I am somewhat amazed at the variations in opinion when answering the question "how much power do you need to plow a steep driveway, with 2 feet of snow on it?"
 
Don't want to own two trucks, don't want to drive around all winter with a plow on my primary vehicle. I do drive quite a bit to ski. That may change somewhat, what's it like driving 100 miles on the interstate at 75 mph with a plow on the front? I have no idea, never did it. But doesn't seem like fun.
The plow quick detaches so you’re not driving around with it.
Who uses a tractor to plow?
How big is your tractor?
Is it big enough?
I do.
JD 870.
Yes.

I personally would have all of these aforementioned snow moving toys including an old beater plow truck. Use it to go to the dump and pick up big items in town the rest of the year so it’s not just sitting. Must have a gun rack too.

As for the garage…
 
Love JAWS.

How many times a season do you take your plow on and off? How much of the plow is always on?

Basically I don't want any of these things:

A crappy plow truck
A great plow truck
A three car garage
A plow that sits outside

Having all the tools is a luxury.
 
Having all the tools is a luxury.
Andrew plows in the Catsskils.
He uses a truck and lives in a castle on a side of a mountain.
Any plow truck and/or tractor ya gotta maintain.

Andrew has lots of nice tools and knows how to use em.
 
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Thanks for this SBR. Very helpful.

Is your driveway flat or pitched? @Cork's driveway is probably steep as mine but much shorter (and paved).

From what I have been reading today, I am somewhat amazed at the variations in opinion when answering the question "how much power do you need to plow a steep driveway, with 2 feet of snow on it?"
Harv's driveway is way beyond (in steepness and length and the turn around) a walk behind snowblower, or even a subcompact tractor.
 
Here’s a question- have you ever driven a tractor?
Have you ever driven an NTN binding?

When you build something like this, it makes sense to think about it. If a tractor is going to be the best solution longterm, it's probably smart to listen to those with experience, those who know. I'm sure I can learn to 'drive' whatever I end up with.

@Cork I'm starting to think we need to lengthen the building, get rid of the shed roof all together, add a side garage door and park all 4 vehicles inside. To me that side garage door is very appealing. Even with the removal of the shed roof, it's probably a net increase in price.

Harv's driveway is way beyond (in steepness and length and the turn around) a walk behind snowblower, or even a subcompact tractor.

More very helpful info. Thanks for your help with everything man.
 
My driveway has a bit of a pitch but I doubt it is anything like yours. You could always end up like my neighbour, whose driveway is large but pretty flat. He also has a few rental properties that he plows. He has, at last count, an F250 with a plow, small Chinese tractor (similar size to Cork's) with blower, bucket, grader and forks (last item for what, I have no idea), two ATVs, trailer for ATV, one snowmobile, homemade log splitter, minivan, Ford Escape and assorted non-driveable vehicles out in the bush. All these vehicles live outdoors. And also two mastiffs who bark a lot.

@Brownski - I had never driven a tractor before we got ours. It is very straightforward and a short learning curve. And fun. You end up looking for reasons to drive the thing. "Hey honey, I'm just going out to do some tractoring."
 
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Don't want to own two trucks, don't want to drive around all winter with a plow on my primary vehicle. I do drive quite a bit to ski. That may change somewhat, what's it like driving 100 miles on the interstate at 75 mph with a plow on the front? I have no idea, never did it. But doesn't seem like fun.
I do not plow, but 2 of my neighbors use their pick-ups for their day jobs and in the winter also plow. They take their plows off unless there is snow coming. It seems like you are making it too complicated.
 
This is simpler:

I don't want a plow truck.

Hey i am moving to upstate ny to retire. I'm complicated.
 
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