Powder days are overrated.

The adventure sports crowd/demographic has made a shift in the past 10 years as these sports have become more accessible to broader swaths of the public. The sentiments being expressed by @raisingarizona about resort skiing is not dissimilar from how I feel about mountain biking and snowboarding to a lesser extent. The sheer amount of money and time required to partake and and maintain these hobbies draws out a different type of individual than what existed before these sports became as accessible as they are today. I feel that people are buying into the aspirational marketing and identities that companies in these spaces are portraying. I laugh when I roll up to Belleayre to see 4 $150K Rivian Sprinter vans lined up in the parking lot, likely driven up for a day trip, decked to the 9's. It has become less important to actually engage in the activity itself, with more of an emphasis on having the stuff that associates you with the activities in the eye's of onlookers. Consumerism ruins shit, aspirational marketing is lame and love of the outdoors is being diluted. That said I don't think it makes it worth giving up on these activities completely, just find ways to experience fun in the outdoors in a way that is meaningful and authentic to you, until some company comes along marketing that to the masses...
Yup. But it ain’t only adventure sports crowd,
When I went to the dome to watch the FSU-Cuse hoop🏀game Tuesday night the area behind the curtain was empty except for roped off areas where a few folks who paid extra could sit and feel important. Used to be thousands of folks mingling in groups & having a dome foam before tip off. Gimme back Manley Field House with the dirt floor or a couch with the clicker.
 
The sentiments being expressed by @raisingarizona about resort skiing is not dissimilar from how I feel about mountain biking and snowboarding to a lesser extent.
The same has occurred in surfing, to an extreme extent too. Luckily in New Jersey there is ample coastline for uncrowded waves but in places with feature surf breaks and heavy metro centers, it has become an absolute free-for-all. No etiquette, no taking turns, everyone snaking each other, lack of a "hierarchy" for maintaining control and safety. Many places have become downright dangerous with boards flying everywhere and little to no effort taken by newcomers to learn the "rules" of the lineup. Rockaway queens is our nearest example. What a scene that place is!
 
The same has occurred in surfing, to an extreme extent too. Luckily in New Jersey there is ample coastline for uncrowded waves but in places with feature surf breaks and heavy metro centers, it has become an absolute free-for-all. No etiquette, no taking turns, everyone snaking each other, lack of a "hierarchy" for maintaining control and safety. Many places have become downright dangerous with boards flying everywhere and little to no effort taken by newcomers to learn the "rules" of the lineup. Rockaway queens is our nearest example. What a scene that place is!
Exactly the same as mountain biking in New Jersey. Absolutely no yielding for oncoming riders or any consideration given to other trail users, riding year round regardless of weather conditions through freeze thaw and rain wrecking trail surfaces, and total disregard for trail maintainers and their work while they are out making improvements. When I was growing up in this sport there was an extreme amount of gatekeeping, trails were unsanctioned and kept under wraps for all but those that had sweat equity. I don't think gatekeeping is the solution, but something needs to be done about the commoditization of these outdoor activities by large corporations. I'm not hopeful about the situation improving however it does seem that the onslaught of participants brought in throughout the pandemic is beginning to wane even if just slightly, maybe along with that will come a loss in corporate interest. Only time will tell.
 
I was turned off on powder at Alta...This aggressive bastard gave me and my kids a hard time on the High T.. Like the extra 5 mins was going to ruin his day...Give me 4 hrs of perfect corn in late march over a powder day any time...
 
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Exactly the same as mountain biking in New Jersey. Absolutely no yielding for oncoming riders or any consideration given to other trail users, riding year round regardless of weather conditions through freeze thaw and rain wrecking trail surfaces, and total disregard for trail maintainers and their work while they are out making improvements. When I was growing up in this sport there was an extreme amount of gatekeeping, trails were unsanctioned and kept under wraps for all but those that had sweat equity. I don't think gatekeeping is the solution, but something needs to be done about the commoditization of these outdoor activities by large corporations. I'm not hopeful about the situation improving however it does seem that the onslaught of participants brought in throughout the pandemic is beginning to wane even if just slightly, maybe along with that will come a loss in corporate interest. Only time will tell.
Yes it's a problem with people riding in marginal conditions..But I have had very few interactions regarding yielding to up hill traffic..In fact sometimes i don't even see a sole on a saturday in Ring...
 
I was turned off on powder at Alta...This aggressive bastard gave me and my kids a hard time on the High T.. Like the extra 5 mins was going to ruin his day...Give me 4 hrs of perfect corn i late march over a powder day any time...
My one day at Alta we were lined up about 10 deep from the gates on a boot deep morning and everyone was walking up and scanning their passes, when I asked what was up was told if your pass doesn’t scan you might get trampled lol.

Broh brah culture has always been prevalent in surfing, skating, skiing, mtb etc especially at certain breaks, areas, parks. It’s gotten worse as people gotta get after for the IG likes and our world is unfortunately just more aggressive as a whole, driven lately? Dang video games
 
Yes it's a problem with people riding in marginal conditions..But I have had very few interactions regarding yielding to up hill traffic..In fact sometimes i don't even see a sole on a saturday in Ring...
The difficulty of terrain keeps the the worst offenders away from Ringwood, that and sheer mileage and acreage to spread people out. I've almost been mowed over on the Redback decent at Sterling on multiple occasions and don't even get me started with Alpine. Just a few weeks back I was working at Sterling on a day no one should have been out riding in the first place. At least 10 people rolled right through our active worksite hardly acknowledging us. From my perspective, the easier the trails and terrain the worse the user etiquette, it has gotten to the point where I move off trail and yield for everyone regardless of whether I'm traveling uphill or down. I'm not on Strava and have nothing to prove to anyone but myself.

But back to skiing and riding I'll never forget the fight someone tried to start with me at one of the industry on snow demo events at Stratton a few years back. There was a foot of fresh and heading down to one of the lifts I did a little revert carve, I guess the guy behind me either wasn't paying attention or couldn't anticipate my movements but he plowed into me from behind. We had words all the way down to the lift line where he tried to escalate things, I just kept reminding him that he was the one who hit me, didn't seem to change his perspective much.
 
Honestly backcountry and nordic skiing are more fun than you realize. With skinny ski nordic you don't get the g-forces that are so much fun, but you do get to feel natural snow, and I bet some of you would be surprised to find you like it.

The whole wide-waxless thing is a blast and you can make turns.

I guess if it was easy to convince the masses of this it would be more "crowded" but there is a hell of a lot of acreage out there.
 
Does powder bring out the a$$hole in some (many) people? Are the pics of massive Vail lift lines on a powder morning redonculous? Does the untracked get gobbled up in seemingly no time in the am? Yes on all accounts, and if that is how you define “Powder Day” then perhaps they are overrated.

Maybe.

What I say is….don’t let what can be wrong, what other people do, ruin what, in all honesty, is a glorious and never overrated thing.

These are truths I know. If I’m waking up/booting up to the sound of bombs it’s gonna be a GOOD day. If I’m waiting for Patrol to drop the rope on Road to Provo or the Bookends Gate, or the hike to Southback, or the hike to Jacque Peak, or the Nash Gate, or the Summit Quad, or High Pines, or the Double to get to the Ridge, or any of a thousand other places a lucky and smart skier is going to score freshies….it is gonna be a day of days. I don’t care what any of all y’all delude yourselves into believing. :cool::p
 
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