Passes for 2020 - 2021

Being based in NJ I am currently on the fence as to whether to keep my Epic Pass (in light of Covid restrictions in PA VT NH) or seek a refund and get an ORDA pass again (as I know I can get to the 3 NY areas legally, but the lack of a PA option makes day trips arduous - Belleayre is an extra 2 hrs round trip compared to the closest Epic options for me).

Wondering how strictly all those states will enforce their rules. I do work from home so I am pretty close to quarantining at home full time - other than when I will be going out to ski.

If I go to Hunter Friday I will have made my decision by doing so - not sure if conditions and lines will warrant the combination of the drive and advancing the decision making.
 
Being based in NJ I am currently on the fence as to whether to keep my Epic Pass (in light of Covid restrictions in PA VT NH) or seek a refund and get an ORDA pass again (as I know I can get to the 3 NY areas legally, but the lack of a PA option makes day trips arduous - Belleayre is an extra 2 hrs round trip compared to the closest Epic options for me).

Wondering how strictly all those states will enforce their rules. I do work from home so I am pretty close to quarantining at home full time - other than when I will be going out to ski.

If I go to Hunter Friday I will have made my decision by doing so - not sure if conditions and lines will warrant the combination of the drive and advancing the decision making.
The other question for which there is no answer right now is how long travel restrictions will remain in place. Enforcement is more or less impossible when driving and not staying overnight. Even if staying overnight, most motels and hotels are not interested in grilling potential customers before taking money for a room.

What Ikon holders who want to ski Vermont have been told is that they can "attest" to following VT travel restrictions once online and then it's up to them. Meaning Killington isn't going to be asking skiers every time they show up from out of state if they are following the rules regarding quarantine or whatever.

Not an easy decision in terms of an Epic Pass for sure. I'm very unlikely to ski north of Washington DC this winter. Pretty sure that Massanutten, Indy, and Ikon out west should work out.
 
Sooo....with the deadline today I picked up an Ikon Session Pass. At $499 for 4 days ($125 a day) it’s a premium over single day tickets most places out west, but in the COVID ski world everything is more expensive, as we’ve already talked about. That, and I won’t have to worry about availability of day tickets. So 4 days gets me two trips out west, where a typical 3 day weekend includes 2 lift tickets and a day in the backcountry. If I end up not traveling and using the Session Pass this season I can roll the $499 into a Base pass next season.
 
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I got an ABasin pass for $200 (I'm old). I did it more so I wouldn't need reservations to ski with my Denver family if I get out there this year more than to save money. It was more of a risk than other passes because there's no refund or rollover, but...

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Golf set recent records for rounds played this season even dealing with Covid restrictions.
Courses use tee times allowing for controlled access.
Have ski mountains thought of (or implemented) a similar access system for managing masses?
The state runs many great golf courses at reasonable prices.
 
Have ski mountains thought of (or implemented) a similar access system for managing masses?
Yes. But I can't think of one that is using that approach for the season. Was used in CA in late season for a week or two.

What I've seen is various ways to encourage people to ski in the afternoons, especially on weekends. Mt. Hood Meadows came up with different pass options that made it very enticing to have a pass that was good starting mid-afternoon. Meadows has night skiing and is mainly for locals doing day trips, so can still get quite a few hours to balance against the driving time. Massanutten has a late afternoon ticket for $20, 3:00-5:00 since night skiing isn't open yet.
 
Golf set recent records for rounds played this season even dealing with Covid restrictions.
Courses use tee times allowing for controlled access.
Have ski mountains thought of (or implemented) a similar access system for managing masses?
The state runs many great golf courses at reasonable prices.
Apples and oranges. A Golf course rarely sees more than 250 people/day on an 18 hole course. There could be that many people in the lift corral waiting for a six pack at a major area with another 600 people on the six pack.
 
Apples and oranges. A Golf course rarely sees more than 250 people/day on an 18 hole course. There could be that many people in the lift corral waiting for a six pack at a major area with another 600 people on the six pack.
agree. with golf once you pay and start playing you rarely interact with anyone outside the other 3 in your group. you wait behind the players in front of you no matter how slow they are. if you staggered ski times we would still all eventually gather at the lift based on different abilities and terrain skied. golf tends to be closer to home. i usually only ski 3-4 hours but most people drive to mountain expecting full day.
 
Apples and oranges. Agree both outsports A Golf course rarely sees more than 250 people/day on an 18 hole course. There could be that many people in the lift corral waiting for a six pack at a major area with another 600 people on the six pack.
Apples and oranges.
Agree...but both outdoor sports require lots of space
A Golf course rarely sees more than 250 people/day on an 18 hole course.
Agree... that’s why they use tee times to manage the masses all wanting to play.
There could be that many people in the lift corral waiting for a six pack at a major area with another 600 people on the six pack.

Disagree...Not in 2020 due to Covid.
However, I will share a six pack in the parking lot if ya want a cold one as long as ya don’t get too close.
 
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