ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

[Milo Maltbie]

Why is Texas the only one to be separate?

Texas is the only state latge enough and with enough energy production to go it alone. It also has a long history of regulting oil and gas production through the Texas Railroad Commission, but was one of the last states to have retail utility regulation. It's just a different history and approach to regulation than other states.
To be fair, I don't think anyone at ERCOT would raise their hand and say "let's plan for a winter storm to cver the whole state of Texas." I don't think we even planned for that in NY.

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[Tjf1967]

You cannot beef up wires, you can only bury them.
Texas does not have enough power generation right now - that means they still have rolling blackouts. La and Miss have plenty of power supply and do not have rolling blackouts, they have downed wire issues only. Texas does not have enough power and, on a smaller scale, downed

I understand all that. You can beef wires to and when the water table is high it's too expensive to bury. Texas did it their way. Is any other states way better?
Who says? Results show ever state has problems with things like this. Your political tone calling them morons is more what I object to. Why do we care of they are connected to the grid?

 

[tirolski]

Wait what? People somewhere are slower than in central NY?

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mm, I’m slower now than when was at Ole Miss. They’re getting some snow now though, that’ll slow those dang rebels down.

 

[x10003q]

I understand all that. You can beef wires to and when the water table is high it's too expensive to bury. Texas did it their way. Is any other states way better?
Who says? Results show ever state has problems with things like this. Your political tone calling them morons is more what I object to. Why do we care of they are connected to the grid?

Because now the Federal government will bail them out and the rest of us get to pay for their "independence" and slightly lower price for energy. This was preventable if they followed Federal regulations. There are millions of people without water, so more money from the Federal government to fix that too.

 

[Campgottagopee]

Here is some history about Texas power generation.

"The Texas Interconnect System — which for a long time was actually operated by two entities, one for northern Texas and one for southern Texas — had another priority: staying out of the reach of federal regulators. In 1935, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the Federal Power Act, which charged the Federal Power Commission with overseeing interstate electricity sales. By not crossing state lines, Texas utilities avoided being subjected to federal rules."

"Even today, ERCOT is also not completely isolated from other grids — as was evident when the state imported some power from Mexico during the rolling blackouts of 2011. ERCOT has three ties to Mexico and — as an outcome of the "Midnight Connection" battle — it also has two ties to the eastern U.S. grid, though they do not trigger federal regulation for ERCOT. All can move power commercially as well as be used in emergencies, according to ERCOT spokeswoman Dottie Roark."
Not enough connections to prevent continuing rolling blackouts.

Why does Texas have its own power grid?

Basically, Texas has its own grid to avoid dealing with — you guessed it — the feds.

www.chron.com

X, please explain this to the Gov of TX as he's on the news demanding answers why this has happened....lol

 

[Campgottagopee]

Because now the Federal government will bail them out and the rest of us get to pay for their "independence" and slightly lower price for energy. This was preventable if they followed Federal regulations. There are millions of people without water, so more money from the Federal government to fix that too.

My wife and I were just talking about this. It's def not right but we have to do it. It actually pisses me off!!

 

[x10003q]

X, please explain this to the Gov of TX as he's on the news demanding answers why this has happened....lol

He knows exactly what happened. Also, the Tx residential average is about .11/kwh. I pay .13 in NJ. I wonder who is making all the money from the "cheap" rates? You can get as low as .06 in Texas, but you need to have a floating rate. Those people are screwed.

 

[Campgottagopee]

He knows exactly what happened. Also, the Tx residential average is about .11/kwh. I pay .13 in NJ. I wonder who is making all the money from the "cheap" rates? You can get as low as .06 in Texas, but you need to have a floating rate. Those people are screwed.

I know he does. It made me smh when he was demanding answers.
If you don't mind me asking, are you in the energy biz? Or do you just know things.

 

[x10003q]

I know he does. It made me smh when he was demanding answers.
If you don't mind me asking, are you in the energy biz? Or do you just know things.

I was involved in supplying bulk electricity to industrial users in the 1990s. It was a different planet then.

 

[Milo Maltbie]

He knows exactly what happened.

IME experience no one knows what happened until they work through the data and figure it out. That can takes months. The politicals will make the people who know stuff miserable until order is restored, but that's not the same as knowing what happened.

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