Gore Mountain Conditions

[Harvey]

Neve and I only did 7 runs.

She loves that run under the Straightbrook Chair. We went up to the top only to ski it. Twice. After the first run she says...

"As soon as I dropped in, I knew I wanted to do another lap. Why isn't anyone skiing it? It's the best snow on the mountain!"

Another cold one. Good skiing.

 

[Alfredeneumann]

ORDA busted their butts to get the Ski Bowl, Burnt Ridge and interconnect open by the holidays, to the detriment of of snowmaking in other pods, even though the lodge isn't done and there’s no indoor plumbing. So what do we do now? Lock it up for two days so we can watch it melt from Wednesday to Saturday.
And if there was ever county money going into that sewage treatment system, you can kiss that bye bye.

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[tirolski]

ORDA busted their butts to get the Ski Bowl, Burnt Ridge and interconnect open by the holidays, to the detriment of of snowmaking in other pods, even though the lodge isn't done and there’s no indoor plumbing. So what do we do now? Lock it up for two days so we can watch it melt from Wednesday to Saturday.
And if there was ever county money going into that sewage treatment system, you can kiss that bye bye.

Why not just have a meeting to ask to hire some outta state (or downstate) consultant to come up with some plan?

Ya can have a pre-meeting meeting, maybe virtually to “save” time, money & energy, with senior staff to make a nice power point presentation of the situation after collecting whatever supporting BS ya can find.

With all this “work" accompished ya can sit back and say ya tried to do something to fix the problem.

Meanwhile the worker bees toil away.
Lather rinse repeat.

 

[ADKmike]

the Mobil 3 fill up's reduced price Ski Ticket!

Now you're talkin'....those were the days....introduced alot of friends to the adirondacks on those deals in my 20s!

 

[snoloco]

ORDA busted their butts to get the Ski Bowl, Burnt Ridge and interconnect open by the holidays, to the detriment of of snowmaking in other pods, even though the lodge isn't done and there’s no indoor plumbing. So what do we do now? Lock it up for two days so we can watch it melt from Wednesday to Saturday.
And if there was ever county money going into that sewage treatment system, you can kiss that bye bye.

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Are you capable of skiing without your tinfoil hat on?

What is with the conspiracy theories about the Ski Bowl and Burnt Ridge being solely to blame for all operational shortcomings elsewhere on the mountain. They've made snow on every single summit trail except Rumor. They're so far ahead of any other year in my season pass history, and you still have a problem with the snowmaking. Acting like they are behind on snowmaking elsewhere on the mountain just because Burnt Ridge and the Ski Bowl saw snowmaking prior to mid January, when they're actually in a similar or better place than years past, despite having so much more terrain open is horseshit and you know it. Stick to complaining about the lodge screw up and not opening all the areas 7 days a week.

 

[SudsNBumps]

Damn I think Sno should get that 2 million dollar consultant fee. Gore is the mountain that more people bitch about yet continue to ski...because it is awesome even with the idiosyncrasies. Today was awesome but I showed up late and parked in E...and the slopes were empty. I never waited on a line. Where was everyone? A lot of College kids but no lines and relatively uncrowded slopes. I'll take it. They will get the lodge open soon and all that sh?t will be slowing traffic on 28 until sometime right before next ski season. In two years it will be one of the best restaurants in NC and they will have sewers. ORDA gets something new and great and three years later we applaud it. Cut to my signature and Happy New Year

 

[Milo Maltbie]

Gore has opened more terrain earlier this year only because there has been almost continuously favorable weather. The real test will be how well it recovers from the first long stretch of warm weather. It's also not doing so well compared to other mountains. Belleayre has been almost 100% open on all the snowmaking area for weeks. So has Windham, Hunter and Killington. Only Gore has any of its most important trails opened. They haven't even started on Sagamore.
Ski Bowl will always require more snowmaking but never have skiing as good as the upper mountain because of its low elevation and will never be well connected enough to significantly ease crowding on the main mountain, They spent $40 million there without increasing snowmaking, which is water limited and barely adequate for the main mountain.
ORDA is run by idiots who can't maintain the facilities they have, and Gore is the red headed step child of ORDA.

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[snoloco]

Gore has opened more terrain earlier this year only because there has been almost continuously favorable weather. The real test will be how well it recovers from the first long stretch of warm weather. It's also not doing so well compared to other mountains.

Oh, this sounds so familiar to the same damn thing I've been fighting for the past 9 years at Whiteface. The idea that opening Lookout would somehow put the mountain one 48 hour stretch of above-freezing temps away from complete closure. This isn't how it works. They aren't going to be in worse shape for having opened Burnt Ridge and the Ski Bowl in time for Christmas.

Belleayre has been almost 100% open on all the snowmaking area for weeks. So has Windham, Hunter and Killington. Only Gore has any of its most important trails opened. They haven't even started on Sagamore.

Belleayre has 100% of snowmaking terrain open, but is a much smaller mountain. I'm not sure if you have checked the snow reports, but Windham, Hunter, and Killington do not have 100% of snowmaking terrain open yet. Whiteface is about 4 trails away from finishing. Gore has Sagamore, 46er, Rumor, 1A, and Fairview and they will have completed anything they made snow on last year, and they have already gone beyond that with Lower Steilhang, and I expect some other trails to see snowmaking this year that didn't last year. It's January 6th and they hadn't even started making snow on Burnt Ridge at this point last year.

Ski Bowl will always require more snowmaking but never have skiing as good as the upper mountain because of its low elevation and will never be well connected enough to significantly ease crowding on the main mountain, They spent $40 million there without increasing snowmaking, which is water limited and barely adequate for the main mountain.

They literally followed industry best practice by being opportunistic at the lower elevations and stockpiling snow there when they had single digit temps in early December. Killington did the same thing at Skyeship. They used a dedicated feed that did not take away from capacity on the main mountain. I've outlined ways to improve connectivity beyond what has already been done. Connectivity, or lack thereof, is not a reason to not open it. Do you ever want to see any snowmaking at Burnt Ridge or the Ski Bowl? It sure seems like you don't. I don't understand the extreme hatred to these areas. Same thing I deal with at Whiteface with people who just hate Lookout for seemingly no reason. If you don't like it, then don't ski it. The rest of us want to ski the expanded terrain.

 

[MC2]

I’ll read those arguments later (I love a good internet fight).

But my question is: how did Gore do with the weather overnight? Lots of Freezing rain down here in the burbs. Worth coming up? Tomorrow looks nice.

 

[tirolski]

Damn I think Sno should get that 2 million dollar consultant fee. ...

Absolutely, at least a fair cut for the Ski3 bumps.
He could do it in his sleep.
If ya do what ya love you’ll never work a day in yer life.