Gore Mountain Conditions

He also said that the Ski Bowl interconnection was open more than 60 days this year. That's about 9 weeks, and it was closed a lot of weekdays, so maybe he should check the records about that.


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WOWWEE that is some serious BS HOWIE!...
 
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60 days from the first day it opened until the last day it opened?
 
60 days from the first day it opened until the last day it opened?
That seems about right to me. I only got to Ski Bowl once this year, but maybe the crossover was open when Barkeater was unskiable.
Howie said the crossover will be open more often next year because more snowmaking around it. Also you will be able to reach the crossover by the new trail.

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I’ve probably gotten a (deserved) reputation here as a nattering nabob of negativism (google it) so I’m going to give my thoughts on what I think Gore management should do with the ski area they have. This is as much to trigger further discussion as to share my thoughts. So here goes with Alfred’s Manifesto, or What I Would Do If I Managed Gore Mountain.

Gore Mountain is unique. It began where it did because of a train to North Creek and a road from there up a mountain to a mine. It probably isn’t where you would put a ski area if you were starting with a blank canvas, but it’s what we’ve got. New York State steps in in the 60s and builds a ski area on a different mountain, totally separate from the North Creek Ski Bowl, completely surrounding and not using Bear Mountain, in the middle of the area, for over 30 years. Then a rapid and seemingly hodgepodge series of developments gives us what we have now, a ski area with historic beginnings, spread out over four peaks, with long interconnecting trails and a unique assortment of terrain. Probably its most unique feature is the quantity and variety of glades, from steep, tight ones high in conifer forest to long, gradual runs in open hardwoods. Many old trails are narrow, through beautiful forest, with turns, changes of pitch and fall line that enhance that “old Gore” experience. Not to mention the views of the surrounding Adirondacks.

What Gore Mountain must do is embrace its history, uniqueness and variety and not aspire to the Vail/Killington delusions of grandeur. To do that –

Reverse the trend begun in the 90s of cutting or widening trails to soccer pitch dimensions. Many of these trails now have snowmaking on 50% or less of their unnecessary widths. Begin a reforestation program on half the width of Upper Twister, Upper Echo, Upper Sagamore, Upper Topridge, Upper Uncas and Tannery. It will reduce the need for making snow on those areas and grooming them, saving water, energy and personnel costs.

Be very reluctant to make changes in the historic and unique areas of the mountain, particularly the High Peaks, North Side and Straight Brook areas. Restrict development to increase skier capacity to the Ski Bowl, Burnt Ridge, the lower mountain and the trails from Bear Mountain that feed into it.

Before making changes, STOP. THINK. Once that big new lift is installed, once that new trail is cut, once that glade is changed into a trail, once that old natural snow trail is widened, straightened, covered with manmade snow and groomed, it’s never going back. Solicit input and feedback, not by just posting a plan online and declaring a comment period open. Create a user group of all types of Gore customers – skiers of all abilities, longtimers and those new to Gore, locals, weekenders, daytrippers. Then ask them what they think of your plans, listen to what they say, and ask them for their ideas. You will be surprised at their passion for this unique ski area.

Keep Gore Weird.
 
Was thinking of heading up.
What’s the rational for shutting down North and Burnt Ridge lifts now?

Mountain Update For Sunday 4/3/22

With a little snow in the morning, it’s a perfect day to get outside and enjoy the fresh Adirondack air. Explore further on the North Side and Burnt Ridge Mountain while getting more laps on Tahawus, Sagamore, and Echo, it’s the last chance to enjoy these two lifts for this season.
 
No one is skiing? Yesterday was Saturday, and there was never a line at the gondola, all day.
 
Was thinking of heading up.
What’s the rational for shutting down North and Burnt Ridge lifts now?

Mountain Update For Sunday 4/3/22

With a little snow in the morning, it’s a perfect day to get outside and enjoy the fresh Adirondack air. Explore further on the North Side and Burnt Ridge Mountain while getting more laps on Tahawus, Sagamore, and Echo, it’s the last chance to enjoy these two lifts for this season.
I’ll take a wild guess that it is “labor costs“. It’s a pity, but understandable, that they’re shutting Burnt, because it is under-attended, given the traverse required to get there. I skied there both this Saturday and Sunday, and not only was there never a lift line, but I seldom saw even half the chairs occupied.
Pity, because Sag & Echo were lovely!
Shutting North Quad seems odd because those shaded trails face north-ish and could hold snow. That said, Sleeping Bear was closed because of open patches.
There is tons of snow in certain places at Gore, such as the mountains on Wild Air, and Topridge has impressive depth of artificial snowpack. Their challenge will be to keep snow on the windswept plains in front of Saddle Lodge, but they’ve built a sizable reservoir on Fairview.
 
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