Detachable vs Fixed Grip Lifts

I've ridden the Big Sky 8 pack and even when there's a pretty long line it loads less than 8 on a lot of chairs.

Yup. When we were there in 2019, they had just installed it, and very few chairs went up with 8. Not sure if they have switched to RFID since then, but the handheld scanners and people not paying attention made for less than full loads.
 
I've never seen a detachable double. That would be pretty cool. Maybe a waste of money, but cool to see and ride.
I mentioned it somewhere upthread, the Wildcat gondola was a detachable double.
 
Sorry I missed it. In my mind I was imaging a chair.

Two person gondi seems really cray.
 
Two person gondi seems really cray.
The crazy part is that one time they were loading sand bags before we got in to add weight because of the wind. Scary.
 
I've never seen a detachable double. That would be pretty cool. Maybe a waste of money, but cool to see and ride.
They do exist. https://www.remontees-mecaniques.net/bdd/liste-5-type-36.html

I don't think you'll see a new one built again. Resorts would probably just opt for a quad with bigger chair spacing.

It might be 8 or not much more, I have heard the 8'ers in practice have not a whole lot more capacity than 6'ers due to the difficulty in loading 8 skiers in a line every time.
Most 8 packs have big chair spacing, so there is not necessarily more capacity than a 6. Boyne has 2 in operation and 2 more announced for 2022. Ramcharger currently has an hourly capacity of 3200, but is upgradeable to 3600. Kancamagus has a theoretical and current capacity of 3500. The two announced 2022 projects will have hourly capacities of 3200. While these capacities are all achievable with a 6, the loading intervals are shorter. For a 3600 hourly capacity, you can load 6 every 6 seconds or 8 every 8 seconds. For 3200, it's 6 every 6.75 seconds, or 8 every 9 seconds. The question is whether loading more people on each chair, but with a longer interval between chairs is better than loading fewer people per chair, but with a shorter interval between chairs.

I've ridden the Big Sky 8 pack and even when there's a pretty long line it loads less than 8 on a lot of chairs. When you ride with 7 other people, sometimes it feels a little like a subway car, where you feel like you need to be careful about how you talk. I don't think we're gonna see many lifts bigger than 6.
I went to Big Sky the year Ramcharger 8 opened. It never had much of a line when I was there, so they were never trying to group people. I actually don't think I ever got on it with a full chair.

If you go back in history, the first high speed quad in the world was built in 1981 at Breckenridge. The first 6 pack was built in 1991 at Mont Orignal in Quebec. In North America, 6 packs have never been as popular as quads. In Europe, quads have been almost entirely displaced by 6 packs and 8 packs. But similar to North America, 8 packs have never displaced 6 packs.

I think you'll see some more 8 packs in North America. They are useful for when a resort needs a very high-capacity chairlift on a relatively short route. None of the Boyne 8 packs are over 5000 feet. The one Vail has announced for Park City will be 5370 feet long. It's the first one in the chain, and I think there will be more. It's actually replacing a 6 pack. That brings us up to 5 either operating or announced in North America, and I think there will be more in the coming years.
 
Sorry I missed it. In my mind I was imaging a chair.

Two person gondi seems really cray.
Mt Snow used have 2 enclosed detachable doubles that they called a gondola - enclosed skis on lift. They were both on the main face. Once went to the top and one went 2/3 of the way up.
 
Mt Snow used have 2 enclosed detachable doubles that they called a gondola - enclosed skis on lift. They were both on the main face. Once went to the top and one went 2/3 of the way up.
I remember those ... they were awesome ... you didn't even have to take your skis off!!!
 
If you ignore the title and scan down, @Stu got to experience the Kanc8 recently at the opening ceremonies. There are videos embedded in his article.
This was written in his article. Dang double negatives. WTF does it mean?.
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The importance of this from a lifestyle point of view cannot be overstated. Are you a skier, or someone who skis? If you’re a passholder, you’re a skier. You feel cool. In a sport that never ceases trying to make its participants feel bad about themselves, that matters. A lot.
emphasis added.

I ain’t a masochist. I just like to ski.
 
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