Belleayre Conditions

[jasonwx]

He’s the only dude with a Fanny pack

 

[Harvey]

have a nice dinner in Pine Hill before heading home.

Advantage to being local or semi-local for sure.

The locals get frustrated that their roads are clogged up by people from elsewhere and drive more aggressively.

I get this. But when it comes down to it I bet a measurable percentage of employment in Ulster County is generated by those people clogging the roads.

He’s the only dude with a Fanny pack

 

[DomB]

I did ski alone half the day, would have been cool to meet @Bandit. I connected with @Country Gun for several runs.

The road was really slick, heading out after last chair. I was taking it slow, at the speed limit or just below. I don't understand tailgating, and passing, when you are driving in a long line of cars, in a storm. Guy passes me, scares the F out of everyone, and then is in front me in line for 20 miles.

Those are the worst - go crazy to pass, jam in front of you, and then go the same speed as you. The weird thing is, it is hard to even speed on 28 in good weather because you can get pulled over at 5 over the speed limit (I have seen it happen at 7 over and heard stories at five over). Of course, in the storm driving you are talking about, people are often not at speed limit (understandably and safely so).

 

[Harvey]

Those are the worst - go crazy to pass, jam in front of you, and then go the same speed as you. The weird thing is, it is hard to even speed on 28 in good weather because you can get pulled over at 5 over the speed limit (I have seen it happen at 7 over and heard stories at five over). Of course, in the storm driving you are talking about, people are often not at speed limit (understandably and safely so).

I never speed on 28. My first time to Belle I was with @jamesdeluxe. The conversation in the car was about driving the speed limit to avoid a ticket, and we got a ticket. Very efficient, the cop has his own printer, set up to do business efficiently.

That road alternates between 45 and 55 and has long stretches without speed signs and sometimes you only know you should be going 55 because locals are behind you flipping out. Google maps tells you the speed limit sometimes. Is that accurate?

 

[DomB]

I never speed on 28. My first time to Belle I was with @jamesdeluxe. The conversation in the car was about driving the speed limit to avoid a ticket, and we got a ticket. Very efficient, the cop has his own printer, set up to do business efficiently.

That road alternates between 45 and 55 and has long stretches without speed signs and sometimes you only know you should be going 55 because locals are behind you flipping out. Google maps tells you the speed limit sometimes. Is that accurate?

I don't know if google is accurate - at least for me for some times it doesn't even show a limit.

Because Belle was my home mountain for so long (and kind of will be this year,) I have the 45/55 zones relatively memorized, but sometimes I forgot and if I am not sure I will make an educated guess. I probably stay closer to 5 over than 7 over. When I feel like taking no risk, I drop to about speed limit.

 

[Low Angle Life]

Never speed eastbound near Potter Brothers, if there was ever a spot to get popped for doing 5 over that is it. Seems like the Kingston PD likes to prey on folks headed home from skiing that weren't mindful of their speeds coming downhill into town. The NY State Troops also seem to love the westbound pull off text area just before Morey Hill Road. Things mellow out once you get past the HS in Boiceville in my experience.

 

[Bandit]

The 4 lanes by Hurley heading in to Kingston has often had speed traps. Easy road to go fast on and the limit is 45 there. I haven’t heard stories of getting pulled over for only 5 over though. I pick up 28 @ Boiceville by the school and set cruise on 63 or 64 heading to the Mtn, never been bothered. If I head into Kingston I do the same 8-10 over through all of the speed zones

 

[Q*bert Jones IV]

That road alternates between 45 and 55 and has long stretches without speed signs and sometimes you only know you should be going 55 because locals are behind you flipping out. Google maps tells you the speed limit sometimes. Is that accurate?

It's mostly 45mph in populated areas and 55mph in the wastelands in between. If you're not sure, look around. If you see a business, slow down.

Never speed eastbound near Potter Brothers, if there was ever a spot to get popped for doing 5 over that is it. Seems like the Kingston PD likes to prey on folks headed home from skiing that weren't mindful of their speeds coming downhill into town. The NY State Troops also seem to love the westbound pull off text area just before Morey Hill Road. Things mellow out once you get past the HS in Boiceville in my experience.

Boiceville is the last bastion of civilization. Once you're past the high school (Fly Eagles Fly!), then it's 55mph all the way to Arkville.

The thing about Route 28 is that there is a tangled web of jurisdictions, each with its own quotas to meet. The worst spots are near Kenco, near Morey Hill Rd., Shokan, and Boiceville.

 

[Brownski]

You guys are exaggerating. 10 - 12 mph over the limit is standard. Google maps’ speed limit is accurate. It’s 55 most of the way with a few 45 zones and 1 short 35. You have a moral obligation (to me) to go as fast as possible at all times.

Thanks for making me jinx myself. I’m sure I’ll get a ticket next time.

 

[Ripitz]

It’s a 35mph school zone in Boiceville.