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The pa state ski association ended the fourth and fifth grade program, not vail, and Covid may have something to do with it, vail does a lot of early school programs, funded by the Katz’s

Doug fish of the Indy pass, says models like freedom pass are money losers for their members

Not being flippant about it, they lost money, according to them on their financial report, just reporting what they stated. They lost money before the shutdown. Then the shutdown, then this year is probably a loss also, like at most places.

Isn’t the ski3 a super pass?

This year nobody is making money, rentals are off, food and beverage is off,lodging is off, lift tickets may be full price but aren’t ski areas limiting tickets?

No, but if you read the financials of their parent company, it’s a Canadian company, Toronto based I think, the earnings report before the COVID 19 shut down, abasin lost money, haven’t analyzed one since, be shocked if COVID 19 increased earnings

Every Mtn is different, every customer is different, a Boy Scout troop that comes in with 60 kids is going to get the rate of one kid skiing, ? Really

Thankfully you ain’t running the ski industry, wtf

They lost money last year after dropping epic pass, then the shutdown, everyone is losing money this year

My guess epic pass goes up 30 bucks this year, most years it’s between 30 to 50, ikon/epic pass has made casual skiers, less casual and more hard core, I went from casual to more hard core, if skiing is really growing like some say, the country will have to develop more ski areas or expand the...

One of the partners of mill town will be on the storm skier podcast in November I think, I am interested in hearing the interview.

Bousquet update, this Can change, plans are fluid at Bousquet, but they plan on a new lodge after this season, a new chairlift at some point to replace the blue chairlift, a new maintenance shed will be built near the bottom of the old yellow chair, they are blasting at the top of the Mtn...

Based upon their aging infrastructure and small lodge, Smuggs can’t be worth more than 10 million, my guess it’s only worth a lot to Stowe/ vail, if they dont buy, getting 10 million may be a dream.

Their was an article in a ski magazine right after vail bought stowe, it sure seemed like the owner of Smuggs wants to sell to vail, makes sense because what is Smuggs worth if vail does not buy them?

Catamount is considering a high speed lift? Based upon his interview on storm skier podcast, Schaefer said they would never buy a high speed lift, not so much for the actual cost of the lift but because every five to six years the grips on a high speed quad need replacing and they are around 500...

Berkshire East doesn’t have high speed, nor will they ever according to their owners but they do have modern lifts.

Berkshire East doesn’t have ancient lifts from the 1960s, my guess Berkshire East folks have more money than the Smuggs folks, and they both do around 85 k skier visits per year

Not a tree skier, nor an out bounds skier, Smuggs is a beautiful Mtn, but it’s no longer 1965, time for Smuggs to upgrade their lifts, my comparison of pico and Smuggs wasn’t to each other but how they are in the shadows of killington and Stowe, and if each was fifty miles away from killington...