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    Detachable vs Fixed Grip Lifts

    ANSI standards are that singles may run a 600 fpm, and doubles at 550. I think the MRG single runs at full speed most of the time, and I also think they overclock in at peak times. I think it's unusual for doubles to run at full speed. IME experience running doubles faster has always cause...
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    Detachable vs Fixed Grip Lifts

    The K lift at Windham is the perfect example of that. It's a painfully slow fixed grip triple that it still stops often because it mostly serves beginners and adaptive kids. The rope speed you need to load enough chairs on a fixed grip to match the capacity of a detachable is too slow for a...
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    Detachable vs Fixed Grip Lifts

    For a long time Windham had a fixed triple running parallel to the detachable quad. There was rarely any wait for the triple, and HS quad was faster to the top even if the corral was full. They still have a fixed grip double that unloads at the steepest part of the mountain and loads above the...
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    Gore Mountain Conditions

    Of course that is true, but it is also true that Ski Bowl opened before some of the best trails on the main mountain. Actually, the whole main mountain was in terrible shape until they sent the former VP to fix it, and that was after Ski Bowl opened. It was another example of ORDA mismanagement...
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    Gore Mountain Conditions

    Nope. Hudson opened before all those trails last year. I remember that because Mark Parabeck wrote a Facebook post about how great the new Hudson chair is, and I responded by asking if it was better than Sagamore, Uncas, etc. All thise trails were closed at the time. My post was deleted and...
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    Gore Mountain Conditions

    Apparently not forever. Last year they opened Ski Bowl before they even started on Uncas, Topridge, Steilhang, Lies, Rumor or Sagamore. But at least we got a Zippy Thingy. mm
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    Gore Mountain Conditions

    The ironic thing is that they seem to work better for beginners than they do for experienced skiers. mm
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    Gore Mountain Conditions

    The ANSI standard for triples is 500 fpm, but Liftblog has 450 for Topridge, which is the ANSI standard for quads. I don't think many fixed grips run at max speed on busy days. The new lift may run as fast or faster on slow weekdays, but I expect similar rope speed as the old triple but more...
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    Gore Mountain Conditions

    I looked at the Gore website this morning and it no longer has anything about a belt loader on the new lift. I don't think we're gonna see that. @snoloco I looked around the Ski Bowl last winter. It looks to me like they have compressors and pumps down there. Does that mean that SB snowmaking is...
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    Gore Mountain Conditions

    The maximum rope speed is 450 feet/minute for all fixed grip quads. The advantage of a belt loader is that they won't need to slow it down so much, and it won't stop as often, on busy days. If they don't build the belt loader you cab expect the new quad to run slower and stop more often than the...
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    Gore Mountain Conditions

    It's a little disappointing that it's gonna be a fixed grip. I'm not sure how much value a belt loader adds on a lift that is used only by experienced skiers. It will run faster on busy days but I wonder how reliable it will be as it ages. On other news they are also replacing the rope on the...
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    ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions

    There is no political support for increasing any fuel taxes to keep up with the cost of roads. EVs will always make more revenue than cost for electric companies. Theoretical, some of that added revenue could be taxed to replace lost gasoline taxes, but for now that money goes to reduce...
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    ORDA's Biggest Mistakes

    None of that is happening. ORDA forced him out, which means they didn't want to go through the process of presenting the evidence necessary to fire him for cause. They certainly don't want to go through the process for a felony prosecution, which is a much higher evidentiary bar. Based on the...
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    Gore Mountain Conditions

    It's good to see them upgrading the snowmaking plant, but last season proved that the physical plant was adequate but the management/operation of it was terrible. The fact that they fired the only ORDA employee who seemed to know how to make snow is a bad sign for next year. I hope I'm wrong. mm
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    ORDA's Biggest Mistakes

    Being forced out is the equivalent of being fired. It's even worse because you give up all the appeal rights you would have if you were fired for cause. No one ever loses their pension rights, not even if they are fired for committing a felony. Taylor Law violations are not felonies, maybe not...
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    ORDA's Biggest Mistakes

    It seems like Bruce Transue is being held accountable now. Unfortunately, he seemed to be the only person at ORDA who knew how to make snow. I was optimistic about Gore next season, but now...who knows? mm
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    ORDA's Biggest Mistakes

    Bruce was the snowmaking hero of Whiteface last year, and of Gore earlier this year, but what kind of manager is he? He was VP and therefore responsible for Gore operations from the beginning of the season. Why did he let it get so bad at Gore? Were the Gore on site managers not telling him the...
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    ORDA's Biggest Mistakes

    It's unbelievable that, in an organization as large and labor intensive as ORDA, you can be promoted to the level of manager or even VP without having even a rudimentary knowledge of the rules and tactics for dealing with the union. This is especially distressing because Transue seemed to be the...
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    Belleayre Conditions

    ? Is this a Belleayre thing or a more general ORDA issue? mm
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    ORDA Funding

    If they had bilt Burnt Ridge lower, down to Lot F or near Beck's, they could have put a new lodge there and made it the main base of the mountain. That would have eliminated the need for Cedars, but it would be a long lift that would make lapping BR less appealing. Ski lifts are the ultimate...
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