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  1. snoloco

    Gore Mountain Conditions

    This time of year you need to compare terrain mileage, but on this metric, Gore is considerably underperforming the other ORDA mountains. Gore currently has 3.24 miles of open terrain. Belleayre has 5.42 miles and Whiteface has 5.22 miles.
  2. snoloco

    Gore Mountain Conditions

    The webcam was down yesterday. Looks like it is fixed today.
  3. snoloco

    Sno Train Discussion

    There was unlikely enough space at the top of the hill for a full loop track, or a wye long enough to turn the entire train around. So they likely would've turned the locomotive around at a wye, and then ran it around the train on the siding. Most old passenger coaches had seats that folded back...
  4. snoloco

    Sno Train Discussion

    I'm not speaking about the snow train in particular, but the idea that trains are obsolete is not correct. Two recent expansions of state-supported Amtrak routes prove that even an infrequent and relatively slow train can be popular enough that it greatly exceeds its ridership projections. The...
  5. snoloco

    Sno Train Discussion

    Yes, bus trips exist to many ski resorts. Though since I don't live in NYC, I'm not really familiar with them. Very expensive. Expect fares similar to if you took a taxi that far. It's more intended for the west when people are traveling to the ski resorts from the airport. Turntables are...
  6. snoloco

    Sno Train Discussion

    Yes, it's supposed to be Snow Train, but I figured I'd use the first part of my username. Anyways, this thread is to respond to various questions about trains in the other thread, without moving it off topic. The shuttle from Westport likely did not work simply due to the travel time, and the...
  7. snoloco

    Ski Bowl 3.0 at Gore

    Finally, I get to share my extensive knowledge of trains on this site. X is incorrect about the speed of the Ethan Allen Express, as 7.5 hours is approximately the travel time since they extended it to Burlington in 2022. It used to only go to Rutland, with a travel time of about 5.5 hours, and...
  8. snoloco

    Gore Mountain Conditions

    Does this mean it will be isolated from the rest of the mountain with hopefully a shuttle between the two? Will Burnt Ridge be prioritized to get everything connected? Once they have North open, they can connect by opening Backwoods to Eagle's Nest, and then Hedges out. Also, please note that...
  9. snoloco

    Gore Mountain Conditions

    They made an update showing guns on Showcase and at the ski bowl.
  10. snoloco

    Gore Mountain Conditions

    As of just now, Gore is making snow with a total of 2 guns in the base, unless there are more further up the mountain that are not visible. Not sure what the issue is, but regardless, that is a very poor effort. At the same time, Belleayre is making snow top to bottom, and Whiteface is making...
  11. snoloco

    Chair Sale Fail

    They'll be reused on the Golden Express at Pico. They are not the original chairs, and only date back to 2004.
  12. snoloco

    Chair Sale Fail

    Gore did the Topridge chair sale today, actually with the exact method that I said was wrong. They made it first come first serve, a race to the parking lot. Luckily demand was light, and they didn't sell out until around 3. If demand is high and they sell out quickly, it's a bad look to make...
  13. snoloco

    Gore Mountain Conditions

    I was actually referring to opening the interconnect trails sooner.
  14. snoloco

    Gore Mountain Conditions

    Again, I feel like I need to set the record straight on wild speculation. The snowmaking systems are separate but connected. There are two pumphouses. One of them is at the river and pumps 4800 gpm either to the reservoir, or directly to the ski bowl trails. It can also feed to portions of...
  15. snoloco

    Detachable vs Fixed Grip Lifts

    Diminishing returns for a shorter lift, but the difference is always significant. For longer lifts, you're looking at a 5-8 minute difference in ride time, depending on the speeds they are running. If you pulled scan data from both lifts on a busy day, with them running at the same speeds as in...
  16. snoloco

    Detachable vs Fixed Grip Lifts

    -The Summit Quad has a theoretical capacity of 2400 per hour at a speed of 500 fpm. -The T-Bar Express has a theoretical capacity of 1800 per hour at a speed of 1000 fpm. -The Summit Quad had the loading carpet right from the start, and every video of the lift that I can find shows it in use...
  17. snoloco

    Gore Mountain Conditions

    The issues they had were absolutely indicative of a haulrope that was cut too short. The tension system is set to maintain a constant force on the bullwheel. When a lift is fully loaded, the tension carriage will move forward, as the weight of the fully loaded chairs acts against the force...
  18. snoloco

    Gore Mountain Conditions

    I don't know the specifics on the grips or haulrope size. The lift blog list says it has a loading carpet.
  19. snoloco

    Gore Mountain Conditions

    The triple is a CTEC that originally operated as the Valley Triple at Whiteface from 1988-2002. It followed the exact same route that Facelift does now. However, it was effectively a conversion of a double to a triple, so it was a frankenlift right from the start. The section up to the former...
  20. snoloco

    Whiteface Conditions

    Webcams on ski resort construction projects are nothing new, and sometimes extra ones are installed, as large scale projects generate significant attention from the public. Previous ORDA projects had webcams on them, like all 3 of the most recent lifts at Belleayre. With the way the cameras are...
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