DomB
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There might be a 'service wipers' button that lifts them up. Rivian has em. Check.
ICE v Electric: Cost and Emissions
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DomB
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Interesting: Rivian is training Lidar equipped vehicles at the outset of its AI adventure. Tesla didn't (couldn't) do it because it rightfully started with a code-based assisted driving. One reason why Rivian could do it is the much cheaper (not cheap) cost of lidar at the point in time:
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Price 2500 to buy and lease 50 per month. R1 first gen (my gen) will apparently get a baby version of this (probably because the hardware can't handle it) that will be free. Guessing it has very minimal improvement from my current system because of the hardware limits.
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Nothing on sale today will be capable of it right? From the little I heard only the R2 when it's released will have the new chip? Will new R1s eventually get it?
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So now there are videos popping: yes not on sale now. But this will be released to Gen 2 R1s (not min or TJs) within the year. Pretty crazy. Not as good as tesla's but the videos are pretty impressive to this Rivian user. So, I think that the new chip will be in the R2 that will ultimately be able to do the taxi thing, but gen 2 R1s in a year will be able to do alot of what tesla self driving does (though I am sure it won't be as good as teslas at that point). Pretty interesting.
Before this, I did not think Gen2's were better than Gen 1. I still like my Gen1 alot and think it is a better build, but hard to argue against more utility from the Gen2 than Gen1.
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We're living in a new world where cars are more like phones, it's not just horespower and the number of CDs it can hold anymore.
As much as I like FSD I'm skeptical Tesla will get to full Unsupervised on the current HW4. My HW4 doesn't even have the front bumper camera that newer HW4's have. They already announced that HW5 is coming late next year I believe. Whatever version actually achieves level 4 will be highly valuable, and those that don't will not. I bought my Y but maybe I should have leased it for these reasons. Oh well.
Glad to see Rivian is getting in the game though. At some point I may trade in my Alltrack for something bigger, and if Rivian can catch up to Tesla that would be a highly compelling alternative
As much as I like FSD I'm skeptical Tesla will get to full Unsupervised on the current HW4. My HW4 doesn't even have the front bumper camera that newer HW4's have. They already announced that HW5 is coming late next year I believe. Whatever version actually achieves level 4 will be highly valuable, and those that don't will not. I bought my Y but maybe I should have leased it for these reasons. Oh well.
Glad to see Rivian is getting in the game though. At some point I may trade in my Alltrack for something bigger, and if Rivian can catch up to Tesla that would be a highly compelling alternative
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It will take anyone outside of a chinese co a LONG time to catch tesla, but Rivian has two useful circumstances: they are training AI from basically day one (vs many being software 'rules based' coding for a long time); Rivian is putting Lidar in the R2 (and that makes me think future gen R1s). That gives you beefier inputs (though tesla says it confuses the model - i am not near an expert in this but I think it is Elon being cheap/justifying).
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Yeah he said something to the effect of "humans drive without shooting lasers out of their eyeballs". Fair point
