What I've learned since leaving Upstate New York

adrider83

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I recently moved from NY to Denver. Colorado is a wonderful place, but I've realized a few things during the transition.

As a life-long upstate NYer, I loved chasing three inch "pow" days, driving up Northway in hopes that my destination was north of the rain line, and most importantly, bonding with like-minded kooks in the east-coast powder hound community. We're a special group. You have to be special to be hunt snow and good turns in the northeast. It takes perserverance and a true love of the sport. We're like the nerdy kids that only got laid twice in college...both times with a girl that everyone thought was unattractive and annoying (who am I kidding, I actually was that guy). We might not always get the goods, but when we do, we really appreciate it.

No one really appreciates snow like we do. I've found ways to love icy conditions. I've convinced myself that two seconds under a snow gun count as pow turns. I spent three years cutting a trail through the woods behind my house with hachet so that I could run home from school and make a few turns while still wearing my catholic school uniform. I've waited at the base of the Straightbrook quad for an hour, in -15 degree weather, so that I could be the first one down Rumor after a small storm. I've skied down Winfall where there was only about 10 inches of snow covering what would otherwise be a pile of rocks. And, I've also had days out east that rival any pow day at Alta. All true east coast powder hounds have stories like mine.

Move to Denver. A dream come true. I wanted it for so long. All of a sudden, I don't feel as special as my favorite season approaches. Everyone and their brother gets their share of pow turns. What is the main complaint: The traffic up I-70. Granted, I'm not pumped about the traffic. Yes, there is a wonderful skiing community, and the skiing is great. However, soemthing feels a little less special. Maybe that's part of growing up; maybe it's because the community is larger; maybe I'm jumping the gun, since it's only late August. What I do know is that nothing is like the truly special and wonderful skiing community in the northeast.

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Some times I just click on an old page. I found this interesting
this is why it’s widely known that the strongest skiers come from the northeast, ability to ski in any conditions well and you don’t become the “spoiled “ aka weaker skiers who can only ski glory snow on steeper terrain
 
Bob Gray, 1968 and 1972 xc Olympian, from VT. At one point in his career he spent a year in Colorado for training. Blamed his poor results that winter on having always god weather / good conditions.
 
I don’t remember how I responded to this the first time, but it was probably something like this:

Living in Denver sucks if you’re a skier. That traffic is no joke, and, as noted in the original post, there are tons of people who are trying to get to the same place that you are on the weekends. That doesn’t seem like fun to me at all.

I do think “living out west” is a cool thing to do. I think it just comes down to choosing a good place. Lots of places out there are unaffordable, lame, or super isolated. I keep looking for places that *might* be able to maintain a cool vibe, but it’s hard to predict the future. I still need to check out a few contenders with small ski areas & good potential (Ashland, OR, Hood River, OR, Red Lodge, MT, Sandpoint, ID).

I do think that the lakes in the east make it a really great place to be in the summer. I just feel like it’d be nice to ski on more natural snow and see more big mountains in the winter. While I do respect the “get after it” attitude of eastern skiers, it’s not really something that I think I’d miss if I moved out west (as long as I keep my own “get after it” attitude and have some like-minded friends). Ultimately, I think the west (avoiding big cities in favor of smaller cities/towns) just has a better winter scene, particularly if climate change raises overall temperatures in the east by 5 degrees or so.
 
It has been a few years since I have been out there but it was an annual work trip that caused me to fall in love with the Bellingham Washington area. Would love to call Baker my home mountain with plenty of other options around. But alas, I will probably never leave upstate NY as my permanent home.
 
It has been a few years since I have been out there but it was an annual work trip that caused me to fall in love with the Bellingham Washington area. Would love to call Baker my home mountain with plenty of other options around. But alas, I will probably never leave upstate NY as my permanent home.
Bellingham is growing rapidly, in a gentrified manner. I have family who live downtown and the changes there recently are astounding.
 
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